Topic: Vedit Pro64 (1 of 11), Read 106 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Rich Hureau
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 08:38 AM

Since I'm a registered SSP customer, I'm eligible to use the new Pro64 version. My question is - if I know I'll never be editing such really large files, is there any reason for me to use 64, or should I just stay with the regular? Will new features be added to 64, or will they stay in sync except for the file size issue?

 


Topic: Vedit Pro64 (2 of 11), Read 97 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: John H
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 11:13 AM

On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 08:39:10 -0400 GMT, Rich Hureau wrote:

> Since I'm a registered SSP customer, I'm eligible to use the new
> Pro64 version. My question is - if I know I'll never be editing
> such really large files, is there any reason for me to use 64, or
> should I just stay with the regular? Will new features be added to
> 64, or will they stay in sync except for the file size issue?

I have found with my base64 encode/decode macros the 32 bit version
is slightly faster than the 64 bit version. The difference is only a
couple seconds per execution of the macro(s) but in a 'time is
money' situation and heavy repeated use of a macro this could be
worth consideration.

--
John

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (3 of 11), Read 105 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:33 PM

At 11:14 AM 6/15/2004, you wrote:
>I have found with my base64 encode/decode macros the 32 bit version
>is slightly faster than the 64 bit version. The difference is only a
>couple seconds per execution of the macro(s) but in a 'time is
>money' situation and heavy repeated use of a macro this could be
>worth consideration.

Yes, I would expect the 32-bit version to be faster than the current 64-bit version of VEDIT. Since VEDIT Pro64 runs on 32-bit processors, it must simulate 64-bit hardware registers using (slower) memory locations. I think it is only a 5% performance decrease.

Eventually we will have a fully 64-bit version of VEDIT for the AMD 64-bit Athlon/Opteron. As you may know, Intel (with egg on its face) is adding AMD-64 compatibility to first its Xeon and later Pentium chips. I expect this version to perform 15% better than the 32-bit version.

We have already purchased two AMD 64-bit machines (HP A530 from BestBuy) and have the beta of Windows for AMD64 running on them.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (6 of 11), Read 79 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Pauli Lindgren
Date: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 09:08 AM

On 6/15/2004 12:33:12 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>
> Eventually we will have a fully 64-bit version of VEDIT
> for the AMD 64-bit Athlon/Opteron. As you may
> know, Intel (with egg on its face) is adding AMD-64
> compatibility to first its Xeon and later Pentium chips.
> I expect this version to perform 15% better than the
> 32-bit version.

Any news about when the fully 64-bit version of Vedit will be available? At least it would be a good selling point (considering there are not many 64 bit programs available yet).

--
Pauli

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (7 of 11), Read 84 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:06 AM

At 09:09 AM 10/5/2005, you wrote:
>Any news about when the fully 64-bit version of Vedit will be available? At least it would be a good selling point (considering there are not many 64 bit programs available yet).

Pauli:

No, we have not worked on that.

This is a bit earlier than I wanted to announce it, but I might as well...

A VEDIT 6.15 is almost ready with new features including preliminary ftp and email-sending support.

* The issues recently discussed about running VEDIT from a flash drive or even a CDROM have been implemented.
** If no drive is specified for e.g. MacroDir in the
vedit.ini file, then the location of vpw.exe is used.
** Environment variables have been implemented for the
directories within the vedit.ini file. E.g.

MacroDir = $VEDITDIR$\macros

** A new invocation option allows reading but not writing
vedit.ini file. This should allow running from CDROM.

* Option to display the "Printer frame" which shows where printing page breaks would be and the right printer margin.

* Most temporary files will normally be opened in the \vedit\temp directory instead of the file's directory as before.

* Ability to open an ftp site and one or more files in it. (Currently the
user interface is a bit strange and we are renaming/rearranging buttons, etc.) Tom originally wrote this to open up to 10 different ftp sites, but this is not quite ready for release.

* Ability to send the current file or highlighted block as an email message.
(There are no plan for a full email client.)

Since the ftp and email functions are in the macro language, many useful automation functions will be possible.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (8 of 11), Read 83 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Pauli Lindgren
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 04:00 AM

On 10/5/2005 10:06:32 AM, Ted Green wrote:
>
>
>** A new invocation option allows reading but not writing
>vedit.ini file. This should allow running from CDROM.

Do you need an invocation option for that?
Why not just check if the .ini file is read-only?

--
Pauli

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (9 of 11), Read 85 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 11:11 AM

At 04:01 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>From: "Pauli Lindgren"
>
>On 10/5/2005 10:06:32 AM, Ted Green wrote:
>>
>>
>>** A new invocation option allows reading but not writing
>>vedit.ini file. This should allow running from CDROM.
>
>Do you need an invocation option for that?
>Why not just check if the .ini file is read-only?

We implemented it as an invocation option; I suppose we could also check if the file is R/O.

BTW - I will be gone until Sat/Sun on a short family trip.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (10 of 11), Read 85 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Christian Ziemski
Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 03:13 PM

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 11:11:00 -0400, Ted Green wrote:

>>From: "Pauli Lindgren"
>>
>>On 10/5/2005 10:06:32 AM, Ted Green wrote:
>>>
>>>** A new invocation option allows reading but not writing
>>>vedit.ini file. This should allow running from CDROM.
>>
>>Do you need an invocation option for that?
>>Why not just check if the .ini file is read-only?
>
>We implemented it as an invocation option; I suppose we could
>also check if the file is R/O.


I think it would be best to have an OR condition here:

If (VEDIT.INI is R/O) or (invocation option R/O) {
Disable Writing to VEDIT.INI
}

>* Most temporary files will normally be opened in the
>\vedit\temp directory instead of the file's directory as before.

And that new behavior should be configurable (and autoconfigured by
the above if()).
(I'm sure it already is, I simply wanted to share my thoughts ;-)


Christian

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (11 of 11), Read 87 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 09:51 AM

At 02:15 PM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>I think it would be best to have an OR condition here:
>
> If (VEDIT.INI is R/O) or (invocation option "-kr") {
> Disable Writing to VEDIT.INI
> }

I did implement this too in the most recent code, which is on our website.

I'm pretty sure VEDIT can be installed on a USB drive now, and that the
USB drive can have any drive letter.

I am close to having VEDIT run from a CDROM too; I might disables some functions which require writing to the vedit.cfg or vedit.ini files.

I'll keep you posted.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (4 of 11), Read 99 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 12:36 PM

At 08:39 AM 6/15/2004, you wrote:
>Since I'm a registered SSP customer, I'm eligible to use the new Pro64 version. My question is - if I know I'll never be editing such really large files, is there any reason for me to use 64, or should I just stay with the regular? Will new features be added to 64, or will they stay in sync except for the file size issue?

Currently the only reason to use Pro64 is for editing files over 2 Gigs; as I mentioned in another message, it is about 5% slower.

We don't plan to add unique features to Pro64.

Of course, in 5+ years we may stop supporting dinosaur 32-bit processors. ;-)

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: Vedit Pro64 (5 of 11), Read 102 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Rich Hureau
Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 02:58 PM

Thanks for the advice, Ted!

Rich