Topic: How to enable the windows file context menu (1 of 21), Read 65 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Steve Szabo
Date: Monday, April 12, 2004 03:39 PM

How can one enable the windows context menu for Vedit so that the "open with vedit" option appears immediately on the right-mouse click menu from within Windows explorer?

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (2 of 21), Read 58 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Fritz Heberlein
Date: Monday, April 12, 2004 05:05 PM


> How can one enable the windows context menu for Vedit so that the
> "open with vedit" option appears immediately on the right-mouse click
> menu from within Windows explorer?

Via CONFIG / Associate File Types (but read the caveat's there).

Fritz


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Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (4 of 21), Read 59 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:25 AM

At 05:02 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
>> How can one enable the windows context menu for Vedit so that the
>> "open with vedit" option appears immediately on the right-mouse click
>> menu from within Windows explorer?
>
>Via CONFIG / Associate File Types (but read the caveat's there).

The option only appears with Windows 98/ME. It does not even appear with Windows 2000/XP because it causes many side-effects.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (5 of 21), Read 62 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ian Binnie
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:57 AM

On 4/13/2004 12:25:59 AM, Ted Green wrote:
>At 05:02 PM 4/12/2004, you
>wrote:
>>> How can one enable the windows context menu for Vedit so that the
>>> "open with vedit" option appears immediately on the right-mouse click
>>> menu from within Windows explorer?
>>
>The option only appears with
>Windows 98/ME. It does not
>even appear with Windows
>2000/XP because it causes many
>side-effects.
>
You can Vedit (or any other program) to the "Open With" context menu by selecting the "Choose Program", then navigating to vpw.exe.

This is only 2 more mouse clicks.

Vedit will remain there, giving you a choice of programs to use with that extension. (I do this for many types, letting me use Vedit to view/modify files.)

If you select the "Always use the selected program..." this will then become the default for use with "Open". This is not recommended, but it is easy to restore the default application by selecting it as the "Always use..."

 


Topic: AW: How to enable the windows file context menu (6 of 21), Read 66 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Michael Baas
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 03:35 AM

I'm using a 'swiss-army-knife' tool for Windows called Windows PowerPro
(formerly: Stiletto), see: http://www.windowspowerpro.com (freeware)
It probably holds the world-record for the most configuration-options ;-)
and I must admit I have probably thrown it from my disk twice before I
finally understood it enough to keep it. So it's not totally easy to learn,
but extremly powerful and useful, once you've started to understand...

And one of the many features of that app is that it enables you to _easily_
add options to the Windows context-menu. I'm using it to have VEDIT in the
context-menu for ANY filetype...

Just thought I'll mention it, maybe someone finds it useful

Michael

 


Topic: Re: AW: How to enable the windows file context menu (7 of 21), Read 68 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:20 AM

At 03:31 AM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
>And one of the many features of that app is that it enables you to _easily_
>add options to the Windows context-menu. I'm using it to have VEDIT in the
>context-menu for ANY filetype...

Michael:

What version of Windows are you running?
Currently if I add VEDIT to the context window in Windows NT/2000/XP, it interferes with MS Office and some other programs. (Starting a program has the tendency to open the corresponding .exe file in VEDIT.)

Ted.

 


Topic: AW: AW: How to enable the windows file context menu (9 of 21), Read 71 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Michael Baas
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:33 PM

> Michael:
> What version of Windows are you running?

I'm using W2k on my desktop and XP on my laptop and this extension works on
both. Before using that PowerPro-extension, I had manipulated the registry
to get that entry to any file, but that interferred somehow with other
functionality (not exactly the symptoms you described, but something
undesireable as well, but I can't remember exactly what it was)

Cheers

Michael

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (10 of 21), Read 68 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Christian Ziemski
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 03:32 PM

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 03:35:00 -0400, Michael Baas wrote:

>I'm using a 'swiss-army-knife' tool for Windows called Windows PowerPro
>It probably holds the world-record for the most configuration-options ;-)

Wow, really *many* features!

>And one of the many features of that app is that it enables you to _easily_
>add options to the Windows context-menu. I'm using it to have VEDIT in the
>context-menu for ANY filetype...

It installs a DLL file as shell extension to be able to do that.
That seems to be the only(?) clean way to do that. As far as I can see
in the registry looking at the already installed software...

>Just thought I'll mention it, maybe someone finds it useful

It's always interesting to see such tools. Thanks!


Christian

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (11 of 21), Read 71 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 12:33 PM

At 03:28 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
>It installs a DLL file as shell extension to be able to do that.
>That seems to be the only(?) clean way to do that. As far as I can see
>in the registry looking at the already installed software...

Thanks for the info. I suspected it installed a DLL, as just changing the registry does not appear to be enough.

However, if just a DLL makes it work, without changing VEDIT, then the goal should be to develop the minimal necessary DLL.

Ted.


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Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (12 of 21), Read 76 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Christian Ziemski
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 2004 01:37 PM

Ted:

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 00:33:00 -0400, you wrote:

>At 03:28 PM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
>>It installs a DLL file as shell extension to be able to do that.
>
>However, if just a DLL makes it work, without changing VEDIT, then the goal
>should be to develop the minimal necessary DLL.

... and to find out, how to get one of those strange keys like
{2EC41A81-AE31-11d2-A6E6-10E356C10000}
and how to "install" it correctly in the registry with all it's
subentries.

If it would help I can extract the entries PowerPro uses (only via
manual searching; I don't know much about it) and post them here.

Did I mention it: I "like" techniques like the registry :-((


Christian

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (13 of 21), Read 80 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Christian Ziemski
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004 04:17 AM

On 4/14/2004 1:37:36 PM, I wrote:

>... and to find out, how to get one of those strange keys like
>{2EC41A81-AE31-11d2-A6E6-10E356C10000} and how to "install" it correctly in the
>registry with all it's subentries.

Those two articles I found after some googling:

Creating Context Menu Handlers:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_int/shell_int_extending/extensionhandlers/contextmenuhandlers.asp

Creating Shell Extension Handlers:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/shellcc/platform/shell/programmersguide/shell_int/shell_int_extending/extensionhandlers/shell_ext.asp

HTH

Christian

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (14 of 21), Read 83 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Thursday, April 15, 2004 06:01 PM

At 04:12 AM 4/15/2004, you wrote:

>Those two articles I found after some googling:

Thank you, but I have seen them and they just tell me it is a complex task for a non-object-oriented program written in plain C.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (15 of 21), Read 64 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:31 AM

At 12:53 AM 4/13/2004, you wrote:
>You can Vedit (or any other program) to the "Open With" context menu by selecting the "Choose Program", then navigating to vpw.exe.
>
>This is only 2 more mouse clicks.
>
>Vedit will remain there, giving you a choice of programs to use with that extension. (I do this for many types, letting me use Vedit to view/modify files.)
>
>If you select the "Always use the selected program..." this will then become the default for use with "Open". This is not recommended, but it is easy to restore the default application by selecting it as the "Always use..."

You can associate files this way, but we recommend using {CONFIG, Associate file types}.

If you chose this Explorer method, it does not set up the association with "DDE". Therefore, if you have {CONFIG, Misc, Instance control} set to "0" (default), the opened file will always open in a new instance of VEDIT.
If you use {CONFIG, Associate file types}, it will open in any existing instance of VEDIT.

Most users might not care about this small difference, but I just want to point it out. :-)

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (8 of 21), Read 61 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Fritz Heberlein
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 10:40 AM

>The option only appears with
>Windows 98/ME.

... and NT, which I'm still using. Sorry for the confusion.

Fritz

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (3 of 21), Read 59 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:24 AM

At 03:36 PM 4/12/2004, you wrote:
>From: "Steve Szabo"
>
>How can one enable the windows context menu for Vedit so that the "open with vedit" option appears immediately on the right-mouse click menu from within Windows explorer?

Steve:

Sorry, but this has not been implemented in VEDIT. (It is non-trivial for non-object oriented programs.)

The closest you can come is to place the VEDIT icon in the "Send to" folder. VEDIT will then appear in the right-click "Send to" submenu.

Ted.

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (16 of 21), Read 57 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Steve Szabo
Date: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:06 AM

That's surprising. On my previous machine, the "Open With VEdit" option appears directly on my windows context menu. I thought that it was a "advanced/custom" option during the installation, but I don't recall exactly which options I chose during the install.

In any case, how could that menu item show up on my previous installation?

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (17 of 21), Read 53 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Ted Green
Date: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:57 AM

At 10:07 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote:
>From: "Steve Szabo"
>
>That's surprising. On my previous machine, the "Open With VEdit" option appears directly on my windows context menu.

Probably because it was a Win98 machine. I briefly made it a "Not-recommended option", but it caused so many problems and tech support calls that I removed it.

If someone knows how to write the required DLL, that would be great. I'll bet there is sample source somewhere.

Ted.

 


Topic: AW: How to enable the windows file context menu (18 of 21), Read 55 times, 1 File Attachment
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Michael Baas
Date: Monday, April 19, 2004 10:06 AM

Interesting coincidence: today I read the newsletter from www.LAB1.de and
the author introduced a new or updated tool: the 'menu extension
construction kit' which helps to create entries in the context-menu (of
files, dirs or drives). Unfortunately the program itself is available in
german only, but I created such an INF with it and have attached it to this
msg. (You may need to edit it to adjust the path-spec for your system).
According to the doc this INF should also install a workaround for
compatibility-issue with the MS-Office shortcut bar.

HTH

Michael

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From: "Ted Green"

At 10:07 AM 4/16/2004, you wrote:
>From: "Steve Szabo"
>
>That's surprising. On my previous machine, the "Open With VEdit" option
appears directly on my windows context menu.

Probably because it was a Win98 machine. I briefly made it a
"Not-recommended option", but it caused so many problems and tech support
calls that I removed it.

If someone knows how to write the required DLL, that would be great. I'll
bet there is sample source somewhere.

Ted.




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Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (19 of 21), Read 61 times, 2 File Attachments
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Christian Ziemski
Date: Monday, April 19, 2004 05:02 PM

On Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:06:00 -0400, Michael Baas wrote:

>Interesting coincidence: today I read the newsletter from www.LAB1.de and
>the author introduced a new or updated tool: the 'menu extension
>construction kit' which helps to create entries in the context-menu (of
>files, dirs or drives). Unfortunately the program itself is available in
>german only, but I created such an INF with it and have attached it to this
>msg. (You may need to edit it to adjust the path-spec for your system).
>According to the doc this INF should also install a workaround for
>compatibility-issue with the MS-Office shortcut bar.

I was curious and looked into that INF file.
For better understanding I then also tried to create INF files with
that tool MECK.

The "normal" inf-file is interesting since it is standalone.

Unfortunately the "workaround-office-problem"-version depends on a
little executable chk4prg.exe (30KB) which has additionally to be
copied to the harddisk. I think it works like the DLL mentioned
earlier in the thread.

I created two INF files, one with and one without that workaround to
compare. They are attached.

Christian

 
O-W-VEO.INF (1KB)
 
O-W-VE.INF (1KB)

 


Topic: Re: How to enable the windows file context menu (20 of 21), Read 58 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Steve Szabo
Date: Thursday, April 22, 2004 04:44 PM

Just FYI - my previous machine that has the context-menu working is running Windows XP with Vedit 6.10.2

 


Topic: How to enable the windows file context menu (21 of 21), Read 41 times
Conf: Installation, Configuration
From: Steve Szabo
Date: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:22 AM

On a related note, the free Tweak-UI utility from Microsoft allows one to configure any program to be associated with Internet Explorer's "View Source" function.