Topic: Invoking from Opera (1 of 9), Read 18 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: John H Date: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:47 PM Howdy, I've been dealing with a Opera since around version 6 or so and finally decided to see if anyone has figured out why/or a way to keep vpw.exe from starting in a 'normal' window as opposed to maximized? I use vedit for my editor with total commander and do not have this normal windows size instead of maximized issue. Both programs use the same command line (at least what I specify in the program) of simply c:\vedit\vpw.exe I do have vedit configured to normally start maximized and didn't see any invocation option specific to window size. Regards, John

Topic: Re: Invoking from Opera (2 of 9), Read 15 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: Christian Ziemski Date: Thursday, August 11, 2005 01:08 PM On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 00:47:00 -0400, John H wrote: >I've been dealing with a Opera since around version 6 or so and >finally decided to see if anyone has figured out why/or a way >to keep vpw.exe from starting in a 'normal' window as >opposed to maximized? I'm using Opera too and can confirm that effect (I never realized it before). I'm not sure whether Opera or Vedit ignores that "maximize" flag. A simple workaround could be: Create a little veditmax.cmd file with a line like @start /max c:\vedit\vpw.exe and configure Opera to use that veditmax.cmd as Source-Viewer. Not perfect, but working. Christian

Topic: Invoking from Opera (3 of 9), Read 15 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: John H Date: Thursday, August 11, 2005 04:12 PM On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:08:40 -0400 GMT, Christian Ziemski wrote: > A simple workaround could be: > Create a little veditmax.cmd file with a line like > @start /max c:\vedit\vpw.exe > and configure Opera to use that veditmax.cmd as Source-Viewer. Sounds great except I admit, I have no clue what a .cmd file is.. You mean a batch file? -- John

Topic: Invoking from Opera (4 of 9), Read 17 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: Ian Binnie Date: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:01 PM On 8/11/2005 4:12:16 PM, John H wrote: >On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:08:40 -0400 GMT, >Christian Ziemski wrote: > >> A simple workaround could be: > >> Create a little veditmax.cmd file with a line like >> @start /max c:\vedit\vpw.exe > >> and configure Opera to use that veditmax.cmd as Source-Viewer. > >Sounds great except I admit, I have no >clue what a .cmd file is.. >You mean a batch file? Win2K (including XP & variants) has a much more powerful command line language, of which the older Win98 (& earlier) batch is a subset. These are normally used in a .cmd file, although .bat also works. I am not familiar with Opera, but assume that you are invoking Vedit to edit web page content. Christian's suggestion would work. A much better approach is to create a shortcut to Vpw.exe and call this from Opera. (I am assuming that you are using Win2K/XP.) The shortcut can include all the command line options (without batch limitations), doesn't start another shell (although Opera may already do this) and lets you set Windowed/Minimised/Maximised and Startup Directory etc. You might also want to look at Vedit's instance control. I have Vedit running all the time, and usually prefer to open files in this instance. You may prefer to open a new instance of Vedit, which I do occasionally.

Topic: Invoking from Opera (5 of 9), Read 17 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: John H Date: Thursday, August 11, 2005 11:57 PM On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:02:01 -0400 GMT, Ian Binnie wrote: > A much better approach is to create a shortcut to Vpw.exe and call > this from Opera. (I am assuming that you are using Win2K/XP.) I run 9x and 2K for certain things. I tried the .lnk file in W2K, which wouldn't probably work for me in 9x with maximized set and the same happens. It's not a big deal. It's hardly ever that I ever begin editing from the browser. Just on occasion I like to check the source from the browser where I have not already got the code in vedit. I mostly was fishing for an undocumented command line option for vpw[64].exe to use, something OS cross-compatible. Most of my normal use applications are (capable of) installed once yet shared between OS. I might try a .pif file and see how that works. I expect W2K still knows how to use them. I don't think 9x batch language knows /max -- oddly enough I'm stuck in the past with regard to windows but forgot much of .bat language. Thanks for the suggestions though from both of you. -- John

Topic: Invoking from Opera (7 of 9), Read 16 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: Ian Binnie Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 03:29 AM On 8/11/2005 11:57:42 PM, John H wrote: >On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 23:02:01 -0400 GMT, >Ian Binnie wrote: > >> A much better approach is to create a shortcut to Vpw.exe and call >> this from Opera. (I am assuming that you are using Win2K/XP.) > >I run 9x and 2K for certain things. I >tried the .lnk file in W2K, which >wouldn't probably work for me in 9x with >maximized set and the same >happens. Are you saying that this didn't work in W2K - I would be surprised. Win98 .lnk also has an option to start Maximised, but not all the other options. >I mostly was fishing for an undocumented >command line option for >vpw[64].exe to use, something OS >cross-compatible. All the Vedit options are documented in "Starting (Invoking) VEDIT" in the Help file.

Topic: Invoking from Opera (8 of 9), Read 15 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: John H Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 04:31 AM On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 03:29:35 -0400 GMT, Ian Binnie wrote: >>I run 9x and 2K for certain things. I tried the .lnk file in W2K, >>which wouldn't probably work for me in 9x with maximized set and >>the same happens. > Are you saying that this didn't work in W2K - I would be surprised. Yes, I made a lnk file and set it to maximized and vpw still opened in a normal window. Surprised me somewhat. -- John

Topic: Invoking from Opera (9 of 9), Read 16 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: Christian Ziemski Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 08:01 AM On 8/12/2005 4:31:19 AM, John H wrote: >On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 03:29:35 -0400 GMT, Ian Binnie wrote: > >>>I run 9x and 2K for certain things. I tried the .lnk file in W2K, >>>which wouldn't probably work for me in 9x with maximized set and >>>the same happens. > >> Are you saying that this didn't work in W2K - I would be surprised. > >Yes, I made a lnk file and set it to maximized and vpw still opened >in a normal window. Surprised me somewhat. I'm using W2k too. If I create a .lnk file with "maximize" set it starts VEDIT always maximized, the VEDIT.INI entry AppMax=0 is ignored. Christian

Topic: Invoking from Opera (6 of 9), Read 18 times Conf: Startup, File Open, Exit From: Christian Ziemski Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 02:08 AM On 8/11/2005 11:01:41 PM, Ian Binnie wrote: > >Christian's suggestion [batch file] would work. > >A much better approach is to create a shortcut to Vpw.exe and call this from Opera. Agreed, but: It seems to be impossible to configure Opera to use such a shortcut. It's even not possible to use that simple start command directly. So I created the batch file, which now Opera is able to use. Christian