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Topic:	New VEDIT directory structure (1 of 21), Read 24 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Monday, August 24, 2009 01:08 PM

I am revisiting the VEDIT directory structure.
I would like to have fewer files in the main \vedit.

Therefore, I was thinking of adding:

\vedit\context --- to hold all the .syn and .vtm files and any future context-sensitive files/macros.

\vedit\settings --- to hold the various .ini and other files that some macros now create (e.g. Pauli's wildfilew.ini

\vedit\help --- to hold the main veditpw.hlp, future veditpw.chm and the help files that some macros now use (e.g. Pauli's wildfilew.chm)

Any suggestions?

Ted.

Topic:	New VEDIT directory structure (2 of 21), Read 14 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ian Binnie
Date:	Tuesday, August 25, 2009 04:28 AM

On 8/24/2009 1:08:34 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>I am revisiting the VEDIT
>directory structure.
>I would like to have fewer
>files in the main \vedit.
>
>Therefore, I was thinking of
>adding:
>
>\vedit\context --- to hold
>all the .syn and .vtm files
>and any future
>context-sensitive
>files/macros.
>
>\vedit\settings --- to hold
>the various .ini and other
>files that some macros now
>create (e.g. Pauli's
>wildfilew.ini
>
>\vedit\help --- to hold the
>main veditpw.hlp, future
>veditpw.chm and the help files
>that some macros now use (e.g.
>Pauli's wildfilew.chm)
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Ted.

Ted,

My opinion hasn't changed since this issue was last raised.
http://webboard.vedit.com/read?43539,26

I don't see the reason to introduce more directories, just to reduce the number of files in a directory.

I would rather have less directories.
(or use subdirectories if we MUST have more)

There is one change which would be worthwhile - move vedit.ini into a directory under USERPROFILE in accordance with current Windows practice.
This should also apply to macros which store state information e.g. wildfile.ini.

The current practice forces all users of a computer to share history and creates file access users on Vista & Windows 7, particularly for users without administrative privileges.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (4 of 21), Read 14 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 01:29 PM

At 04:28 AM 8/25/2009, you wrote:

>My opinion hasn't changed since this issue was last raised.
>http://webboard.vedit.com/read?43539,26
>
>I don't see the reason to introduce more directories, just to reduce the number of files in a directory.
>
>I would rather have less directories.
>(or use subdirectories if we MUST have more)

Sorry, but I would like to reduce the number of files in /vedit to less than 20 with just a few more subdirectories. The many files are very confusing especially to new users.

>There is one change which would be worthwhile - move vedit.ini into a directory under USERPROFILE in accordance with current Windows practice.
>This should also apply to macros which store state information e.g. wildfile.ini.
>
>The current practice forces all users of a computer to share history and creates file access users on Vista & Windows 7, particularly for users without administrative privileges.

Good point. Some of my support staff are now using Windows 7 and like it much better than Vista. While I would personally prefer to keep things in the /vedit directory, I fully understand this needs to be an installation option, and perhaps even the default for Vista/Win7. It certainly also support multiple users on one computer better.

Therefore, perhaps we should have a subdirectory where all R/W settings are stored.
I am currently thinking vedit\settings, but will consider vedit\config if there is a strong preference.

1. The vpw.exe will look for its vedit.ini in both the %USERPROFILE%\vedit and \vedit directories. (I'll have to think about which one should be checked first, etc.)

2. The vedit.ini will specify the new SettingsDir which would be set by the installation to e.g. c:\vedit\settings or %USERPROFILE%\vedit\settings

The SettingsDir will be used to store the vedit.cfg, vedit.key, veditsav.*, mynotes.txt, mynotes.ini and any .ini (type) files that macros create and want to save.

Since using the %USERPROFILE% directory is similar to setting up VEDIT for network usage, there are a few things to consider:

* If there is no vedit.cfg and vedit.key file in %USERPROFILE%, should any ones in the /vedit directory be loaded instead. (I think yes).

* Maintaining ability to run VEDIT from a removable USB drive.

As always, I look forward to any feedback.

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (5 of 21), Read 14 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Fritz Heberlein
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 01:40 PM

Just a minor point that is not directly related to this discussion:

Is it necessary to keep compile.cnf in the root dir?
Moving it into the compile directory would bring a slight improvement to
manual customizing the installation after an update.

BTW. I hope the last version of Christian's compile support (that one
with the syntax highlighted error messages) will make its way into the
new distribution.

Fritz

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (9 of 21), Read 12 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ian Binnie
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 08:58 PM

On 8/26/2009 1:29:01 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>* If there is no vedit.cfg and
>vedit.key file in
>%USERPROFILE%, should any ones
>in the /vedit directory be
>loaded instead. (I think yes).

I agree.

Many applications now create a default structure the first time a user runs the application. I would suggest that if these files are not in %USERPROFILE%, vedit should load those in /vedit. It should save copies (possibly only if changed) into %USERPROFILE%, which would allow each user to customise their configuration.

After all, as you pointed out earlier, bits are now cheap.
Certainly Windows 7 does not worry about creating a few files.

I have used this approach in modifying programs to work under Vista.

A corollary of this is that a new installation of vedit should create these files in /vedit (the installer must have permission).

>* Maintaining ability to run
>VEDIT from a removable USB
>drive.

I would like to retain this too.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (11 of 21), Read 10 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Pauli Lindgren
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 06:13 AM

On 8/26/2009 1:29:01 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>
>1. The vpw.exe will look for
>its vedit.ini in both the
>%USERPROFILE%\vedit and \vedit
>directories. (I'll have to
>think about which one should
>be checked first, etc.)

Shouldn't that be %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Vedit ?
At least on my computer (XP), no application stores data directly under %USERPROFILE%.

But I don't like the idea of putting files in %USERPROFILE%.
It makes it difficult to find the files, and it creates long pathnames.

Since most computers are "personal computers" and thus only used by a single person, at least this should be selectable while installing Vedit. Perhaps with choices like
"Store config settings at: ()Vedit home directory, ()User profile, ()Other directory... ".

>
>2. The vedit.ini will specify
>the new SettingsDir which
>would be set by the
>installation to e.g.
>c:\vedit\settings or
>%USERPROFILE%\vedit\settings

There is already Config_String( USER_CFG ).
Is there need for a new setting?

>* Maintaining ability to run
>VEDIT from a removable USB
>drive.

That should not be problem if the directories are configurable. When installing on USB drive, the directories should be set to Vedit home directory by default.

--
Pauli

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (13 of 21), Read 9 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:19 AM

At 06:13 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>From: "Pauli Lindgren" (pauli0212@...) On 8/26/2009 1:29:01 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>
>Shouldn't that be %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Vedit ?
>At least on my computer (XP), no application stores data directly under %USERPROFILE%.

OK. I don't even have an "Application Data" directory there, so am not sure.

>But I don't like the idea of putting files in %USERPROFILE%.
>It makes it difficult to find the files, and it creates long pathnames.

I absolutely agree. But as was pointed out, it make take extra steps to make the c:\vedit directory (or parts of it) R/W in Vista/Win7.

>Since most computers are "personal computers" and thus only used by a single person, at least this should be selectable while installing Vedit. Perhaps with choices like
>"Store config settings at: ()Vedit home directory, ()User profile, ()Other directory... ".

Yes, this certainly will be an installation option, even on Vista/Win7.

>There is already Config_String( USER_CFG ).
>Is there need for a new setting?

You are correct. That should be enough although VEDIT may need to use it more internally.

>>* Maintaining ability to run
>>VEDIT from a removable USB
>>drive.
>
>That should not be problem if the directories are configurable. When installing on USB drive, the directories should be set to Vedit home directory by default.

I just need to be careful about the search order for VEDIT's macros. Otherwise, something sitting in %USERPROFILE%\vedit\... from another user might override the USB version of VEDIT.

I might need a flag in the VEDIT.INI file whether the %USERPROFILE% should even be used/searched.

It looks like we are reaching a consensus on things and the errors in my original design are being corrected.

Thanks!

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (16 of 21), Read 10 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Christian Ziemski
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:19 PM

On 27.08.2009 16:21 in vtech-macros Ted Green wrote:
>>From: "Pauli Lindgren" (pauli0212@...) On 8/26/2009 1:29:01 PM,
>>
>>Shouldn't that be %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Vedit ?
>>At least on my computer (XP), no application stores data directly under
>> %USERPROFILE%.
>
> OK. I don't even have an "Application Data" directory there, so am not sure.

We wrote %USERPROFILE% in this discussion.
But the correct variable should be %APPDATA%, as far as I know.
And that corresponds to Pauli's comment above.

>>But I don't like the idea of putting files in %USERPROFILE%.
>
> I absolutely agree. But as was pointed out, it make take extra steps to
> make the c:\vedit directory (or parts of it) R/W in Vista/Win7.
>
>>Since most computers are "personal computers" and thus only used by a
>> single person, at least this should be selectable while installing
>> Vedit.

Even if most computers are "personal" ones, a software shouldn't expect
that for all.

>> Perhaps with choices like
>> "Store config settings at: ()Vedit home directory, ()User profile,
>> ()Other directory... ".
>
> Yes, this certainly will be an installation option, even on Vista/Win7.

Agreed. Perfect configurability as usual! :-)

Christian

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (17 of 21), Read 11 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:33 PM

At 12:22 PM 8/27/2009, you wrote:
>From: "Christian Ziemski" (czml1@...) On 27.08.2009 16:21 in vtech-macros Ted Green wrote:
>
>We wrote %USERPROFILE% in this discussion.
>But the correct variable should be %APPDATA%, as far as I know.
>And that corresponds to Pauli's comment above.

Correct. I see now that %USERPROFILE%\Application Data does exist as a hidden directory.

If everyone agrees, we will use %APPDATA%\vedit.

>Even if most computers are "personal" ones, a software shouldn't expect
>that for all.
>
>>> Perhaps with choices like
>>> "Store config settings at: ()Vedit home directory, ()User profile,
>>> ()Other directory... ".
>>
>> Yes, this certainly will be an installation option, even on Vista/Win7.
>
>Agreed. Perfect configurability as usual! :-)

We certainly all agree on that.

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (18 of 21), Read 20 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ian Binnie
Date:	Friday, August 28, 2009 02:55 AM

On 8/27/2009 12:33:33 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>At 12:22 PM 8/27/2009, you
>wrote:
>>From: "Christian Ziemski" (czml1@...) On 27.08.2009 16:21 in vtech-macros Ted Green wrote:
>>
>>We wrote %USERPROFILE% in this discussion.

Actually I wrote just USERPROFILE - indicating the general storage area. Most programs use %APPDATA%, although I have some e.g. gimp which are under %USERPROFILE%.

>>But the correct variable should be %APPDATA%, as far as I know.
>>And that corresponds to Pauli's comment above.
>
>Correct. I see now that
>%USERPROFILE%\Application Data does
>exist as a hidden directory.

This is one of the problems with %APPDATA%. Most programs which use this don't expect the user to access the files contained in the directory, other than through the program.

>If everyone agrees, we will use
>%APPDATA%\vedit.

You may want to check with your Windows 7 users first.

%APPDATA% points to Users\ian\AppData\Roaming on my Windows 7 installation. There are 2 others AppData\Local and AppData\LocalLow

I don't know what Windows 7 does with these, but presume that this is related to one of the configuration/networking options. You don't want users to lose access to their macros if they take their computer from work to home.

>>Even if most computers are "personal" ones, a software shouldn't expect
>>that for all.
>>
>>>> Perhaps with choices like
>>>> "Store config settings at: ()Vedit home directory, ()User profile,
>>>> ()Other directory... ".
>>>
>>> Yes, this certainly will be an installation option, even on Vista/Win7.
>>
>>Agreed. Perfect configurability as usual! :-)
>
>We certainly all agree on that.
>
>Ted.
>

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (21 of 21), Read 24 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Christian Ziemski
Date:	Friday, August 28, 2009 05:26 AM

On 8/28/2009 2:55:28 AM, Ian Binnie wrote:
>
>You may want to check with your Windows
>7 users first.
>
>%APPDATA% points to
>Users\ian\AppData\Roaming on my Windows
>7 installation. There are 2 others
>AppData\Local and AppData\LocalLow
>
>I don't know what Windows 7 does with
>these, but presume that this is related
>to one of the configuration/networking
>options. You don't want users to lose
>access to their macros if they take
>their computer from work to home.

Hopefully Microsoft documented the correct usage of all those directories/variables for developers somewhere...

I never wrote software for Windows myself, so I didn't have to know the details. (And I still use XP, no Vista, no 7.)

Christian

Topic:	New VEDIT directory structure (3 of 21), Read 17 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Pauli Lindgren
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 09:07 AM

On 8/24/2009 1:08:34 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>
>\vedit\context --- to hold
>all the .syn and .vtm files
>and any future
>context-sensitive
>files/macros.

I am not sure about the name "context", is it clear enough?
On the other hand, it perhaps covers wider range of file types than "syntax".

>
>\vedit\settings --- to hold
>the various .ini and other
>files that some macros now
>create (e.g. Pauli's
>wildfilew.ini

Maybe "file-cfg" and "projects" directories could be moved under \vedit\settings. They are setting/configuration files, too, and the user rarely needs to access them manually. This would reduce the number of directories in Vedit home directory.

>
>\vedit\help --- to hold the
>main veditpw.hlp, future
>veditpw.chm and the help files
>that some macros now use (e.g.
>Pauli's wildfilew.chm)

How about \vedit\doc instead of \vedit\help ?
That is quite a common practice, and not all the documentation is help files.

And, as discussed earlier, the directories "tutor" and "examples" could be moved under this directory.

--
Pauli

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (6 of 21), Read 15 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 01:43 PM

At 09:07 AM 8/26/2009, you wrote:

>I am not sure about the name "context", is it clear enough?
>On the other hand, it perhaps covers wider range of file types than "syntax".

It is the best I have come up with so far. I don't like "Language" as that could be misinterpreted as e.g. English/German/Swedish; also some file types are not programming languages.

I just remembered that the vedit\file-cfg, vedit\ftp and vedit\projects directories need to be R/W and therefore might need to be under %USERPROFILE\vedit. The installation can handle all this.

>Maybe "file-cfg" and "projects" directories could be moved under \vedit\settings. They are setting/configuration files, too, and the user rarely needs to access them manually. This would reduce the number of directories in Vedit home directory.

I don't want to add sub-sub-directories as long as \vedit doesn't have more than 12 subdirectories. Especially since these might need to be under %USERPROFILE\vedit.

>How about \vedit\doc instead of \vedit\help ?
>That is quite a common practice, and not all the documentation is help files.

That sounds good. Everyone agree?

>And, as discussed earlier, the directories "tutor" and "examples" could be moved under this directory.

Even though these would be sub-sub-directories, that might work as \vedit\doc is rather obvious. Everyone agree?

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (7 of 21), Read 18 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Christian Ziemski
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 05:10 PM

Since it is a bit confusing with all those newly discussed
directories/files I tried to summarize it this way again.
(like in http://webboard.vedit.com/read?43476,26 as of Feb. 2008)

(As suggestion I changed some things compared to the current discussion)



      #-----------------------------------------

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit

      vedit.ini  # SettingsDir ==> e.g. %USERPROFILE%\vedit\settings

      # if no vedit.ini found here: try fallback to /vedit

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/settings (as default, may be changed by SettingsDir)

      vedit.cfg

      vedit.key

      veditsav.*

      *.tbl

      *.mnu

      *.key

      mynotes.txt

      mynotes.ini

      # and any .ini (type) files that macros create and want to save

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/file-cfg/

      *.cft

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/ftp

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/backup

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/projects

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/user-mac

      # user's local macros (as additional dir in search path for macros)

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/temp

      # as default, may be changed by VEDIT_TEMP

      

      %USERPROFILE%/vedit/custom/

      # macros can save files in here

      

      #-----------------------------------------

      

      /vedit/

      vedit.ini  # as fallback

      *.exe

      *.bat

      *.pif

      *.dll

      # and little more

      

      /vedit/context

      *.syn

      *.vtm

      

      /vedit/settings

      vedit.cfg  # only as fallback

      vedit.key  # only as fallback

      

      /vedit/compile

      

      /vedit/ebcdic/

      

      /vedit/macros

      # original macros

      

      /vedit/user-mac

      # central user macros, overruled by the ones from %USERPROFILES%

      

      /vedit/doc/

      *.txt

      *.pdf

      *.hlp

      /vedit/doc/tutor

      /vedit/doc/examples

      

      #-----------------------------------------

Christian

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (8 of 21), Read 17 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 05:52 PM

At 04:59 PM 8/26/2009, vtech-macros Listmanager wrote:

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/settings (as default, may be changed by SettingsDir)
>vedit.cfg
>vedit.key
>veditsav.*
>*.tbl
>*.mnu
>*.key
>mynotes.txt
>mynotes.ini
># and any .ini (type) files that macros create and want to save

Do we want to place the all-important vedit.key and vedit.cfg file in /vedit or in /vedit/settings; I was thinking in just /vedit or %USERPROFILE%/vedit.

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/backup

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/projects

Yes.

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/user-mac
># user's local macros (as additional dir in search path for macros)

I don't like that, but understand the R/W issues. Perhaps both %USERPROFILE%\vedit\user-mac and c:\vedit\user-mac; agreed?

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/temp
># as default, may be changed by VEDIT_TEMP

We don't need that, as it would use either the %TEMP%\vedit\backup or the e.g. c:\vedit\backup directory.

>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/custom/
># macros can save files in here

No, I was thinking that macros would save files into the SettingsDir.

>/vedit/
>vedit.ini # as fallback
>*.exe
>*.bat
>*.pif
>*.dll
># and little more

Correct, but perhaps also vedit.cfg and vedit.key.

>/vedit/context
>*.syn
>*.vtm

Correct. I think this will likely expand in the future.

>/vedit/settings
>vedit.cfg # only as fallback
>vedit.key # only as fallback

Perhaps putting those into /vedit/.
Putting e.g. wildfilew.ini, mynotes.txt, mynotes.ini and other macro created files there.

>/vedit/compile
>
>/vedit/ebcdic/
>
>/vedit/macros
># original macros
>
>/vedit/user-mac
># central user macros, overruled by the ones from %USERPROFILES%

OK. So I need to check %USERPROFILES%\vedit\user-mac first, then \vedit\user-mac and last \vedit\macros for any macros. Anywhere else?

>/vedit/doc/
>*.txt
>*.pdf
>*.hlp
>/vedit/doc/tutor
>/vedit/doc/examples

Yes.

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (10 of 21), Read 18 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ian Binnie
Date:	Wednesday, August 26, 2009 09:18 PM

On 8/26/2009 5:52:02 PM, Ted Green wrote:

>>%USERPROFILE%/vedit/user-mac
>># user's local macros (as additional dir in search path for macros)
>
>I don't like that, but
>understand the R/W issues.
>Perhaps both
>%USERPROFILE%\vedit\user-mac
>and c:\vedit\user-mac; agreed?

>>/vedit/macros
>># original macros
>>
>>/vedit/user-mac
>># central user macros, overruled by the ones from %USERPROFILES%

>OK. So I need to check
>%USERPROFILES%\vedit\user-mac
>first, then \vedit\user-mac
>and last \vedit\macros for any
>macros. Anywhere else?

This seems a reasonable approach.
There will be many cases where users never write macros, but may use a central set.
In other cases users may want their own macros.

It worries me putting data (i.e. macros) in %USERPROFILES%.
It is one thing putting configuration/state data there - it is easily re-created if necessary.

Perhaps you could consider creating \vedit\user-mac with Write permission for "Users".
This would facilitate sharing macros between users, and provide a secure storage place.

I am not sure how difficult this would be.
A vedit installation on Windows 7 gives "Users" Read, List & Execute permissions.
Of course, users who need to do this could always change the permissions, and the documentation could point this out as an option.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (14 of 21), Read 14 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:44 AM

At 09:18 PM 8/26/2009, vtech-macros Listmanager wrote:

>Perhaps you could consider creating \vedit\user-mac with Write permission for "Users".
>This would facilitate sharing macros between users, and provide a secure storage place.
>
>I am not sure how difficult this would be.

I suspect that as long as VEDIT is being installed as Administrator, that permissions can be changed, and that all macro can reside under \vedit\...

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (20 of 21), Read 19 times, 1 File Attachment
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Christian Ziemski
Date:	Friday, August 28, 2009 05:16 AM

To summarize again (from my point of view at least) I created a little table (in Excel format since I'm not sure about HTML tables here in WebBoard).

I established new config strings there as well to represent search paths.

The comments in the table are terse but hopefully understandable...

Christian

VEDIT-DIRS.XLS (16KB)

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (12 of 21), Read 12 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Pauli Lindgren
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 07:19 AM

On 8/26/2009 1:43:37 PM, Ted Green wrote:
>
>>Maybe "file-cfg" and "projects" directories could be moved under \vedit\settings. They are setting/configuration files, too, and the user rarely needs to access them manually. This would reduce the number of directories in Vedit home directory.
>
>I don't want to add
>sub-sub-directories as long as
>\vedit doesn't have more than
>12 subdirectories. Especially
>since these might need to be
>under %USERPROFILE\vedit.

What is wrong with sub-sub-directories?
Especially with directories that user rarely needs to access.

When directories that user needs not access are moved away from vedit root, the important directories will be easier to locate.

In any case, sub-sub-directories under vedit home directory are much easier to find than the directories in %USERPROFILE%. If someone manages to navigate to %USERPROFILE%, it is insignificant whether or not there are sub-directories there.

--
Pauli

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (15 of 21), Read 12 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ted Green
Date:	Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:59 AM

At 07:19 AM 8/27/2009, you wrote:

>What is wrong with sub-sub-directories?
>Especially with directories that user rarely needs to access.
>
>When directories that user needs not access are moved away from vedit root, the important directories will be easier to locate.

It just a matter of balance. I have seen apps creates sub-sub-sub-sub-sub-directories where the entire sub-tree contains only 2 or 3 files.

I'm not absolutely opposed to sub-sub-directories under \vedit, I just don't want to create subdirectories that only have 1 or 2 files.

On the other hand, I don't like the 100+ files in the main \vedit directory either.

>In any case, sub-sub-directories under vedit home directory are much easier to find than the directories in %USERPROFILE%. If someone manages to navigate to %USERPROFILE%, it is insignificant whether or not there are sub-directories there.

Absolutely agree with you there. I know that many users like to easily copy their VEDIT with all setting from one computer to another. Therefore, I avoid the registry as much as possible and things like %USERPROFILES%.

Ted.

Topic:	Re: New VEDIT directory structure (19 of 21), Read 12 times
Conf:	Wildfile, Other macros
From:	Ian Binnie
Date:	Friday, August 28, 2009 03:36 AM

On 8/27/2009 10:59:34 AM, Ted Green wrote:
>Absolutely agree with you
>there. I know that many users
>like to easily copy their
>VEDIT with all setting from
>one computer to another.
>Therefore, I avoid the
>registry as much as possible
>and things like
>%USERPROFILES%.

But any of us could write a macro (or a command file) which save all user settings/macros to a file, and re-install on another machine.
This would be easier than copying files, as we do now.